Key Points
The self in IFS is complex and multifaceted, with no single definition.
There is a continuum of self-energy; complete self-without-parts is unattainable.
Parts often contain self-energy and can be valuable allies in healing.
Avoid binary thinking (self vs. parts); see the interplay between them.
Use a curious, questioning approach, avoiding premature conclusions.
Consider the “map vs. terrain” analogy when assessing clients’ situations
Summary
Defining the Self in IFS
The conversation begins with an exploration of the Self within the Internal Family Systems (IFS) model. Alessio and Jude acknowledge the difficulty in providing a definitive explanation of the Self, highlighting the lack of a single, universally accepted definition within the IFS framework. They explain that a common misconception is the pursuit of a state of complete unblending from parts. However, experienced practitioners suggest that complete unblending is impossible, aiming instead for a state of increased awareness and integration. This lack of a strict definition is not a problem, but rather highlights the fluid and complex nature of Self-energy within the IFS model.
The Interplay of Self and Parts
The discussion further examines the relationship between Self and parts. Jude introduces the concept of a continuum of Self-energy, explaining that our expereinces exist at various points along this spectrum and fluctuate throughout the day. This challenges the binary opposition of Self versus parts, arguing instead for a more nuanced understanding. They emphasize that parts often hold significant self-energy and can act as valuable resources in the therapeutic process. Overlooking this interconnectedness can hinder effective therapeutic work. The speakers stress the importance of recognizing that what appear to be merely “parts” might be containing significant self-energy and therefore shouldn’t be dismissed easily.
Mapping the Terrain: The Analogy of Map and Territory
The speakers introduce the helpful metaphor of a map and the terrain it represents to illustrate the therapeutic process. They highlight the potential for misinterpreting information, potentially leading to ineffective interventions. The example of someone experiencing physical discomfort due to overheating, which is mistaken for a psychological issue, serves as a cautionary tale. It is important not only to be curious, but to actively query a client’s experience to avoid imposing a preconceived map onto the actual terrain of their experience. This analogy underscores the importance of maintaining curiosity and a willingness to question assumptions, rather than rigidly adhering to pre-existing frameworks.
Conclusion
In their concluding remarks, the speakers emphasize the need for ongoing exploration and a collaborative approach to understanding the self within the context of neurodiversity, gender, and sexuality. They acknowledge the limitations of their own perspectives as white individuals and express a desire to include voices from other marginalized groups in future discussions. The conversation concludes by providing contact information, inviting listeners to reach out and share their thoughts and experiences.
Main points of the podcast
00:00 Welcome to the First Episode on Self in IFS (Internal Family Systems)
Jude and Alessio introduce the topic of the Self, setting the stage for an engaging discussion. They acknowledge the complexities of defining the Self and the importance of exploring this concept.
02:02 The Quest for Understanding the Self
The hosts discuss their personal motivations for exploring the Self, highlighting the multifaceted nature of this topic. They outline plans for future episodes focused on Self in relation to neurodivergence, sexuality, and gender.
04:46 Blending and Unblending: The Nature of Self
Alessio and Jude delve into the concept of blending and unblending within the Self, explaining how individuals are often more blended with their parts than they realise. They emphasise the importance of understanding this dynamic for personal growth and healing.
08:01 Self-Energy Within Parts
The conversation shifts to the idea that parts can possess their own Self-energy, which is crucial for a healthy system. They explore the implications of this understanding for therapy and personal development.
11:31 Navigating the Hardware and Software Analogy
Jude and Alessio discuss the hardware and software analogy in relation to neurodiversity and Self. They highlight the importance of not rigidly adhering to this framework, as real-life experiences are often more complex.
15:11 Mapping the Terrain of the Self
The hosts use the metaphor of a map and terrain to illustrate the challenges of understanding the Self. They stress the need for curiosity and flexibility in exploring personal experiences rather than imposing rigid definitions.
19:00 Inviting Diverse Perspectives
As the episode approaches its conclusion, Jude and Alessio acknowledge the limitations of their perspectives and express a desire to include voices from diverse backgrounds in future discussions. They invite listeners to engage and share their experiences.
